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[0/2] Optionally allow ttynull to be selected as a default console

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n3rdopolis Nov. 29, 2024, 4:15 a.m. UTC 
When switching to a CONFIG_VT=n world, at least on x86 systems,
/dev/console becomes /dev/ttyS0. This can cause some undesired effects.
/dev/console's behavior is now tied to the physical /dev/ttyS0, which when
disconnected can cause isatty() to fail when /dev/ttyS0 is disconnected,
and users who upgrade to a theoretical vt-less kernel from their
distribution who have a device such as a science instrument connected to
their /dev/ttyS0 port will suddenly see it receive kernel log messages.

When the new CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE option is turned on, this will allow
the ttynull device to be leveraged as the default console. Distributions
that had CONFIG_VT turned on before will be able to leverage this option
to where /dev/console is still backed by a psuedo device, avoiding these
issues, without needing to enable the entire VT subsystem.

n3rdopolis (2):
  ttynull: Add an option to allow ttynull to be used as a console device
  tty: Change order of ttynull to be loaded sooner.

 drivers/tty/Kconfig   | 18 +++++++++++++++++-
 drivers/tty/Makefile  |  3 ++-
 drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 16 +++++++++++++++-
 3 files changed, 34 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

Comments

n3rdopolis Dec. 4, 2024, 7:37 p.m. UTC | #1 
On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > device.
> > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > 
> > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > 
> > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > 
> > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> 
> That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> 
Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
GitLab name

Thanks
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
>
n3rdopolis Dec. 6, 2024, 5:36 p.m. UTC | #2 
On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > device.
> > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > 
> > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > 
> > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > 
> > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > 
> > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > 
> Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> GitLab name
> 
What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
that work?
> Thanks
> > thanks,
> > 
> > greg k-h
> > 
> 
>
Greg Kroah-Hartman Dec. 7, 2024, 6:50 a.m. UTC | #3 
On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > device.
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > 
> > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > 
> > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > 
> > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > 
> > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > GitLab name
> > 
> What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> that work?

Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
that says "name"?
n3rdopolis Dec. 8, 2024, 5:25 a.m. UTC | #4 
On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > 
> > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > 
> > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > 
> > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > GitLab name
> > > 
> > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > that work?
> 
> Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> that says "name"?
> 
No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
full name if it comes down to it?

Thanks
Greg Kroah-Hartman Dec. 8, 2024, 1:30 p.m. UTC | #5 
On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 12:25:12AM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > > 
> > > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > > 
> > > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > > GitLab name
> > > > 
> > > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > > that work?
> > 
> > Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> > that says "name"?
> > 
> No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
> doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
> full name if it comes down to it?

No.
n3rdopolis Dec. 9, 2024, 2:16 a.m. UTC | #6 
On Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:30:08 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 12:25:12AM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > > > GitLab name
> > > > > 
> > > > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > > > that work?
> > > 
> > > Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> > > that says "name"?
> > > 
> > No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
> > doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
> > full name if it comes down to it?
> 
> No.
> 

Can I do first name, last initial? Or does it have to be a full name?
Greg Kroah-Hartman Dec. 9, 2024, 6:35 a.m. UTC | #7 
On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 09:16:28PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:30:08 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 12:25:12AM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > > > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > > > > GitLab name
> > > > > > 
> > > > > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > > > > that work?
> > > > 
> > > > Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> > > > that says "name"?
> > > > 
> > > No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
> > > doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
> > > full name if it comes down to it?
> > 
> > No.
> > 
> 
> Can I do first name, last initial? Or does it have to be a full name?

Honestly, based on this long discussion, I really don't think we can
take any contribution from you without having someone else verify that
the the name you use here is correct.  Please work with the kernel.org
ring-of-trust to get a valid signature added to it and then I'll be glad
to reconsider.

And note, I'm not singling you out at all, we have recently had to do
this for many new contributors.

thanks,

greg k-h
n3rdopolis Dec. 10, 2024, 2:56 a.m. UTC | #8 
On Monday, December 9, 2024 1:35:04 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 09:16:28PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:30:08 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 12:25:12AM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > > > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > > > > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > > > > > GitLab name
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > > > > > that work?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> > > > > that says "name"?
> > > > > 
> > > > No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
> > > > doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
> > > > full name if it comes down to it?
> > > 
> > > No.
> > > 
> > 
> > Can I do first name, last initial? Or does it have to be a full name?
> 
> Honestly, based on this long discussion, I really don't think we can
> take any contribution from you without having someone else verify that
> the the name you use here is correct.  Please work with the kernel.org
> ring-of-trust to get a valid signature added to it and then I'll be glad
> to reconsider.
> 
> And note, I'm not singling you out at all, we have recently had to do
> this for many new contributors.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
> 
Understood, and I am sorry, I am trying to go though kernel.org to see,
do you mean asking helpdesk@kernel.org ? I tried reading the documentation, but
maybe I did not look in the right place
Greg Kroah-Hartman Dec. 10, 2024, 7:28 a.m. UTC | #9 
On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 09:56:01PM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> On Monday, December 9, 2024 1:35:04 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 09:16:28PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 8, 2024 8:30:08 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 12:25:12AM -0500, nerdopolis wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:50:50 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 12:36:21PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 2:37:55 PM EST n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 1:06:50 PM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 12:06:56PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:41:44 AM EST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 11:15:48PM -0500, n3rdopolis wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Add a config option CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE that will have ttynull be
> > > > > > > > > > > > initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
> > > > > > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: n3rdopolis <bluescreen_avenger@verizon.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Meta-comments, we need a blank line before the s-o-b line, AND we need a
> > > > > > > > > > > real name here, sorry.  I can't do anything with these (including
> > > > > > > > > > > reviewing them), until that happens.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Oh, I thought that I didn't need a real name
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I found a recent thread that seems like it suggests that I thought
> > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241121165806.476008-40-alex.bennee@linaro.org/[1]
> > > > > > > > > > https://drewdevault.com/2023/10/31/On-real-names.html[2]
> > > > > > > > > > Or do I need to wait for that change to the guideline be merged?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > That change has been merged a long time ago, but as far as I can tell,
> > > > > > > > > this signed-off-by you used here does not meet this category.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Oh, what would it take to meet that category? I've been using this nick to
> > > > > > > > contribute to other projects, and it matches my GitHub name, and FreeDesktop
> > > > > > > > GitLab name
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What if I made the signed-off-by (and committer name) this email address? would
> > > > > > > that work?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you sign documents with your bank with an email address in the line
> > > > > > that says "name"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > No, I guess not, the no pseudonym requirement was dropped, but if my nickname
> > > > > doesn't work If I really have to, can it just be my first name, instead of my
> > > > > full name if it comes down to it?
> > > > 
> > > > No.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Can I do first name, last initial? Or does it have to be a full name?
> > 
> > Honestly, based on this long discussion, I really don't think we can
> > take any contribution from you without having someone else verify that
> > the the name you use here is correct.  Please work with the kernel.org
> > ring-of-trust to get a valid signature added to it and then I'll be glad
> > to reconsider.
> > 
> > And note, I'm not singling you out at all, we have recently had to do
> > this for many new contributors.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > greg k-h
> > 
> Understood, and I am sorry, I am trying to go though kernel.org to see,
> do you mean asking helpdesk@kernel.org ? I tried reading the documentation, but
> maybe I did not look in the right place

https://korg.docs.kernel.org/pgpkeys.html should help out